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Kristy- That is great your pedi was understanding. Which shot are you delaying? MMR?
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Yes, that is all she is supposed to get this visit, so we'll wait and go from there.
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Ksh - You're welcome . That's great news that your pedi is understanding.
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kristy- glad to hear your pedi was on the same page...makes it so much easier!
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I saw this posted on my non-vaccine chat group I belong to in an article posted there on infant deaths from vaccines and thought I would share it.

I can see the numbers increase every year so I wonder what they are up to now 7 years later?? I feel sick looking at these numbers.


# Reported Deaths
2000 - 1, 960
1999 - 1,120
1998 - 1,000
1997 - 160
1996 - 70
1995 - 20
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It is sickening. Thanks for sharing.
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Judith - Thanks for that info and the web site. I saw an article that I wanted to read there, but they aren't accepting new members and aren't showing the articles to non-members. You wouldn't happen to be a member, would you? If you have access to the What are the Odds article, I would LOVE to read it. Here's the link: What Are The Odds? | Red Flags
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Wendy- I don't have access to that site either. It was posted on another forum so I guess when I copied the info the link copied. I tried messing with it but can't get in.

This is all I can access on the site the reports on the deaths: Here are some from 2000.



VAERS ID 153392 An infant received the DTaP, HepB, HIBV, and IPV vaccines on 6/1/00. He did not wake up the day after the vaccines were given. (Nevada)
VAERS ID 153914 A 61 year-old man received the ANTH vaccine 4/13/00. Exactly one month later he developed swollen hands, forearms. His joints ached, his shoulder was sore and he was very tired. Benadryl and pain medication were given, but they did not help. He was then given Advil. As of 6/4/00 he still complained of fatigue, "swel" and that's it. The box "died" is checked, but it doesn't say when. (Michigan)
VAERS ID 154522 An infant received the DTaP, HIBV and PNC vaccines on 5/10/00. Here is what it says: "Three days post vax the patient died of unknown cause most likely related to severe BPD, prematurity and failure to thrive." (Florida)
VAERS ID 155408 An infant received the DTaP, HepB, HIBV, IPV and PNC vaccines on 5/24/00. That evening she was hospitalized. The next day, inpatient lab tests were performed and she underwent a "Kasai" procedure. Then it says: "Post surgery, she dev" and that's it. It doesn't say when she died. Pre-existing conditions were biliary atresia and neonatal hepatitis. (California)
VAERS ID 155423 A infant received the DTaP, HepB, HIBV and IPV vaccines on 6/16/00. Sometime later, don't know how long, he died of SIDS, according to pathologist. (Michigan)
VAERS ID 155424 A 69 year old received the LYME vaccine on 5/12/00. The dates don't make sense because it says she started with a cough and fever in January of 2000 (before the vaccine) and then became progressively weaker, dyspneic and started spiking fevers up to 105F. She was hospitalized, had a complete workup, find only spenomegaly. It ends with "Patient started on prednisone and symptoms appeared" and that's it. It says she had chronic pacreatitis secondary to gallstones as a pre-existing condition. (New York)
VAERS ID 155590 An infant received the DTaP, HepB, HIBV, and IPV vaccines on 1/3/00. 43 days later he died of SIDS. Pre-existing conditions were RSV, IUGR, and neuro-developmental disorder. (New Hampshire)
VAERS ID 155775 A 1 year-old received the DTaP, HIBV, IPV, and MMR vaccines on 6/9/00. 8 days later he had sudden onset of respiratory arrest and subsequent brain death. He had been 4 1/2 weeks premature. (New Mexico)
VAERS ID 156329 An infant received the DTaP, HBHepB and IPV vaccines on 5/31/00. The next day, the mother said he was fine when he was put in bed with her, but when she tried to awaken him he was lying on his stomach with mucus from his mouth and not breathing. (Mississippi)
VAERS ID 156370 An infant received the HepB vaccine on 7/6/00. I believe it was the following day (could have been the same day) he died. This is what it says: "Patient found asytolic and pulseless in the field (I don't know what in the field means - SM). Received epinephrine X4 with heart rate obtained. Transferred to ICU, intubated but no respirations, fixed pupils, no corneals. Initial PH=6.5, patient died about 15 hours after arrival with cardio" and there it ends. (Texas)
VAERS ID 156861 An infant received the DTaP, HIBV, IPV and HepB vaccines on 6/6/00. 3 days later, at 6AM, he was found by his maternal grandmother in his crib not breathing. She stated he was fine after receiving the vaccination but was fussy, but no fever. It then says "She" and that's it. (Alabama)
VAERS ID 157956 An infant received the HBHepB vaccine on 7/12/00. 2 days later he was found by his mother in the morning not breathing and without a heart rate. Pre-existing conditions were 27 week gestation and cerebral palsy. (California)
VAERS ID 158477 An infant received the DTaP, HBHepB, and IPV vaccines on 7/31/00. The next day she died of SIDS. (New Mexico)
VAERS ID 158751 An infant received the PNC vaccine on 7/27/00. He died the next day. This is what it says: "Death. Doubt any relationship other than temporal." Pre-existing condition Walker-Warburg syndrome. (Wisconsin)
VAERS ID 159003 An infant received the DTaP, IPV, PNC and HBHepB vaccines on 8/4/00. The next day he was found blue and unresponsive. Efforts to resuscitate were unsuccessful. Said mother had a history of smoking during pregnancy. (State unknown)
VAERS ID 159019 An infant received the DTPH and OPV vaccines on 8/14/00. It says the following: "This patient received the first dose of study vax and concomitant vaxs." (What are study and concomitant vaccines?) It then goes on to say: "Approximately 9 hours post vax, she became lethargic and sleepy. Approximately 2 hours later, she was brought to the hospital and was pronounced dead on arrival. Due to the tempo" and that was it. It says she was a premature baby. (State unknown)
VAERS ID 159083 A one- year-old received the HepB and VARCEL vaccines on 8/15/00. She developed a fever and vomiting with cyanosis on the evening of vaccination. In the ER her pulse "ox" was 50% (normal for her was 7. She developed bradycardia and respiratory arrest. Then it says: "Full CPR was performed for 70-80 minutes before pronunce" and that's it, presumable dead the same day. Pre-existing conditions listed were tricuspid atresia, pulmonary atresia, and unrestricted ASD. (New Hampshire)
VAERS ID 159131 An infant received the HepB and PNC vaccines on 8/8/00. Starting about 48 hours post vaccination she developed status epilepticus-simple partial (motor). It says "Left body started about 48 hours immunization". It doesn't say when she died. (Texas)
VAERS ID 159916 An infant received the DTaP, IPV, PNC and HBHepB vaccines on 9/11/00. 3 days later she was found blue and not breathing (at 12:30PM). She had been put down for a nap at 10:30AM. Paramedics were unable to intubate due to rigor mortis. She was taken to the ER where she was pronounced dead on arrival in asystole. (Texas)
VAERS ID 159963 An infant received the HepB and PNC vaccines on 9/13/00. 7 days later she was found pulseless and apneic in her crib at 8:00 (no AM or PM). It says she had a pre-existing condition of "initial low blood sugar". (Massachusetts)
VAERS ID 160203 An infant received the IPV vaccine on 8/31/00. The next day she was brought into the hospital in full cardio respiratory arrest. It doesn't say when she died, but presumably she was not resuscitated or it would have said so(?) (Illinois)
VAERS ID 160354 A 32 year-old female received the ANTH vaccine on 3/14/00. She experienced aplastic anemia and invasive asperigillosis. It says adverse event onset date was 92 days post vaccination - don't know if that is when she died. (State unknown)
VAERS ID 160417 An infant received the DTaP, HIBV, IPV and HepB vaccines on 9/22/00. This is the confusing and incomplete reported text: "The reported states, 'Don't know", understands the infant was DOA at the hospital but was not verified." The adverse onset date was 9/24/00, so she probably died 2 days post vaccination. (Kentucky)
VAERS ID 160423 A 15 year-old received the HepB and HepA vaccines on 2/17/00. Sometime post vaccination, he was playing badminton in high school PE class when he collapsed. CPR was started by his PE teacher and the high school nurse until parmedics arrived. He expired at the hospital (presumably the same day). An autopsy was performed. Then it says "Pathology tissues of heart sent fo" and that's it. If he died the same day, since it says the onset day was 3/8/00, 20 days later, it would seem he died 20 days post vaccination. (Alaska)
VAERS ID 160872 A 55 year-old woman received the FLU vaccine on 10/01/00. This is what it says: "The evening of the vax the patient complained of shortness of breath and requested use of inhaler. The patient's husband noted little or no relief. The patient was then transferred to bed from her notarized cart. The husband observed her to stare at the c" and that's it. Pre-existing conditions were "obesity, diabetes, diabetic neuropathies, transverse myelitis, neurogenic bladder control, asthma. I don't know when she died. (New Mexico)

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VAERS ID 160877 An infant received the DTaP, PNC and HepB vaccines on 10/5/00. 20 hours post vaccination, he had a fever of 100. 72 hours post vax he arrived unresponsive to the ER and died during resuscitation efforts. A blood culture drew pneumococcus. The infant was "status post stage 1 for surgery for hypoplastic left heart syn" and there it ends. (Virginia)
VAERS ID 161030 A 32 year old received the ANTH vaccine on 3/14/00. He developed aplastic anemia and aspergillosis. Doesn't say when he died or when the symptoms started. (Washington)
VAERS ID 161041 An 82 year old woman received the FLU vaccine on 10/19/00. She died in her sleep the next day. It says her pre-existing conditions were CAD, DM, HTN, MI and CVA. (Ohio)
VAERS ID 161098 An infant received the DTaP, HBHepB and IPV vaccines on 10/25/00. The next day he was sleeping with his 16 year-old sibling and mom found him not breathing with his siblings arm across his face. CPR and intubation were both unsuccessful. (Illinois)
VAERS ID 161164 An infant received the DTaP, IPV, PNC and HBHepB vaccines on 9/22/00. He slept more than usual for the first 2 days post vaccination and then died of SIDS on the fourth day post vax. (Minnesota)
VAERS ID 161215 An infant received the DTaP, HIBV, IPV and PNC vaccines on 7/24/00. He was found not breathing that night and was taken to the hospital where he died in the early morning hours. (Indiana)
VAERS ID 161299 An infant received the DTaP, HIBV and PNC vaccines on 10/25/00. At her well child exam on that date she received the vaccines and two days later died of SIDS. She was a twin and born at "39 3/7" weeks gestation. (Pennsylvania)
VAERS ID 161415 An infant received the PNC vaccine on 8/22/00. It says "the patient developed pneumococcal meningitis resulting in death 36 days post vax". Onset date was 36 days post vaccination, but I don't know if it means a) the meningitis occurred sometime after vaccination and he died 36 days post vaccination, b) the meningitis and the death both occurred 36 days post vaccination (i.e., he got sick and immediately died), or c) he got meningitis 36 days post vaccination and then died sometime later. (Oregon)
VAERS ID 161416 A 79 year-old man received the FLU vaccine on 10/10/00. I believe it was 5 days later that he developed respiratory distress and congestive heart failure (onset date 5 days post vaccination). He was hospitalized in the ICU where he "cease to bre" and that's it. Don't know if he died on that fifth day post vaccination or not. (Illinois)
VAERS ID 161439 An infant received the DTaP, HIBV, IPV, and HepB vaccines on 7/26/00. Probable SIDS 3 days later (autopsy being done, further studies pending). (Oregon)
VAERS ID 164158 A 72 year-old man received the FLU vaccine on 12/13/00. It says he died within 48 hours of myocardial infarction, prior condition "CAD" and chronic "CHF" (glossary does not explain). (Arizona)
VAERS ID 164060 An 80 year-old man received the FLU vaccine on 11/1/00. Here is what the reported text says: "Report received on 12/12/00, via telephone from a nurse regarding a possible adverse event associated with Fluvirin. On 11/1/00, an 80 year old male pt (patient) (DOB 8/1920), received vaccination with Fluvirin and 1 day later, developed a fever of un" and that's it. Apparently (it's in the preexisting conditions section) he had arteriosclerotic cardiovasular disease and unknown atrial fibrillation. (Pennsylvania)
VAERS ID 163938 An infant received the DTaP, HIBV, IPV and HepB vaccines on 8/15/00. 35 days later she died of SIDS. (New Hampshire)
VAERS ID 163937 An infant received the HepB vaccine on 6/28/00. 14 days later he died of SIDS. (New Hampshire)
VAERS ID 163936 An infant received the DTaP, HBHepB, IPV and PNC vaccines on 9/7/00. The next morning (10AM) she was found face down in the corner of a "love seat" where she was sleeping. She had fed at 6AM without complication. (Missouri)
VAERS ID 163884 A 52 year-old man received the ANTH vaccine on 10/26/00. 8 days after that he experienced cardiorespiratory arrest at work. Presumably that is when he died. (Maryland)
VAERS ID 163810 A 57 year-old man received the ANTH vaccine on 11/8/00. 11 days later he died suddenly at home. (Maryland)
VAERS ID 163778 A one year-old received the DTaP, HIBV and HepB vaccines on 12/5/00. (She was given an examination and deemed to be "normal", so given the vaccinations.) That evening she still seemed fine and most of the next day. This is what the text then says "She awakened at 11 PM on 12/6/ crying and was given a dose of Motrin f" and that's it. So I don't know what happened. She died but there is obviously no indication of when that might have been. (Texas)
VAERS ID 163673 An 80 year-old man received the FLU vaccine on 11/30/00. He was a volunteer fireman and photographer and was called out the next evening. He wasn't feeling well and vomited at the scene. He refused treatment by EMTs. When he returned home he collapsed and the EMTs were unable to resuscitate him. I presume he died the day following vaccination. (Connecticut)
VAERS ID 163135 An one-year old received the DTaP, HIBV, IPV, HepB and MMR vaccines on 9/5/00. It says the adverse event occurred the next day, but it may mean she died that night/early morning because it says "infant was put to bed for the evening and expired." It also says the infant was behind on immunizations and that the mother had given a negative history for previous adverse reactions. Cause of death is undetermined. (Tennessee)
VAERS ID 163596 A 4 year-old received the FLU vaccine on 12/4/2000. The next day he was brought to the medical center in full arrest. His grandmother had found him struggling for breath in bed. Does not say that he died at that point, but it also says nothing about resuscitation, so he probably died that day, the day following vaccination. Apparently he had as preexisting conditions, optic glioma, pahypopitutitarism, "GERD" and seizures. (Alabama)
VAERS ID 163506 A 71 year-old man received the FLU vaccine on 11/21/00. He was found dead by his son later that day. Says had "CAD" as a pre-existing condition. (Georgia)
VAERS ID 162990 An infant received the HepB vaccine on 9/29/00. There is no more information, other than that she died and the adverse event (either the first symptoms, or the death, if it was sudden) occurred 2 days later. (North Carolina)
VAERS ID 162748 An infant received the DTaP, HBHepB and IPV vaccines on 9/18/00. She died approximately 36 hours later, cause of death unknown. (Michigan)
VAERS ID 162631 An infant received the DTaP, HIBV, IPV and PNC vaccines on 11/14/00. He died 24 hours post vaccination. (Michigan)
VAERS ID 162587 An infant received the DTaP, HIBV, IPV and PNC vaccines on 11/09/00. The mother reports that he was crying around 2AM the following morning. She placed him in his bed and found him unresponsive and not breathing at 6AM. Child was pronounced dead on arrival. (South Carolina)
VAERS ID 162586 A 57 year-old man received the HepA and TTOX vaccines on 11/01/00. He experienced muscle aching, lethargy, tingling in the extremities started the next day. A low grade fever and diarrhea developed later (doesn’t say when). 2 days later marked purpura developed. The patient was seen in the ER and was admitted. It then goes on to say “The pt died 4 days”. It either means 4 days post vaccination or 4 days later. (Unfortunately it does not indicate in the field for days in hospital how many days he was there.) So he died either 4 or 6 days post vaccination. (Maryland)

VAERS ID 162585 An infant received the DTaP and HIBV vaccines on 10/23/00. This is what the text says: “28 4/7 weeks premature infant was given vaccines on 10/23/00 at approximately 9:00. At 12:00 the infant had signs of decreased profusion, shock, malaise, acidosis, and cardiac arrest”. It says she had signs, but doesn’t say when, exactly, she died. (It also says she had complex cyanotic heart disease and chronic lung disease as a pre-existing condition.) It sounds like she died the same day, but I cannot be sure. (Pennsylvania)
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OMG Judith that breaks my heart reading all that.
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That is so sad . Thanks for posting it, though. The article I wanted to read was supposed to tell the odds of contracting a disease vs. having something bad happen from the vaccines. Maybe I will sign up at that site to be notified when they are accepting memberships again.
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Reading all that breaks my heart too but makes me feel so great and safe about of our choice with Mason. One thing I never worried about was SIDS with him because I had read years ago studies showed it was vaccine related because 98% of the children had vaccines with-in 72 hours and had bleeding/swelling of the brain which is a side effect of many vaccines.

Also, the lung specialist at Children's Hospital told me flat out not to worry anout Mason and SIDS once they knew I wasn't vaccinating. The doctor said SIDS is vaccine related in her opinion.

Wendy- Let me know if you ever get approved!! I will post on my other board for you and see if anyone can post that article for us.
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Thanks Judith!
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Just thought I'd let you guys know that I found a new doctor for Liam (and Dh & me) today. It was the 2nd one I called, too. The girl on the phone was very nice and said that they have many patients who choose not to vaccinate.

Also, we measured Liam last night and he is now 24 3/4 inches long and 16 pounds. I was at the hospital Friday night because I fell outside and cut my chin open (it needed stitches) and the ER doctor thought Liam was 4 1/2 months old. He was shocked when I said he's 2 1/2 months. The doctor stood there talking to and playing with him for probably 5 minutes. Luckily I wasn't in any danger of bleeding to death or anything from my injury. I thought it was awesome how nice he was and how much he liked Liam.
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