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Kedney- Good luck tomorrow. I'm dreading it too. I know whatever you decide to do for Jack with be the right decision for your family. It is hard when you like your peds. We have been seeing ours for 6 yrs. and I know he is going to challenge me on it. We decided to have them tested just for our peace of mind. I hate to have them draw blood, but with all the issues with the toys. I think we just would feel better. We only had one of the boy's toys be one recalled and one of Briana's art sets was. Otherwise, we are okay. Can't wait to hear how the appt. goes for you tomorrow.
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Well Jack's appointment went better than I expected. She didn't fire me but said if I refuse all vaccines then she would have to discharge me. She gave me a couple websites (the cdc and aap) which I have already looked at and said she would give me and dh a call one day after hours to talk more about it. She said science proves that vaccines do not cause damage. I had to sign a waiver saying that I was going against medical advice and that if Jack got something that they weren't liable (which I understand completely). She also said that we could vaccinate at our own pace and that she and I could pick out the vaccines she thought Jack really needed at that time. She really pushed the third dose of DTaP due to pertussis being so bad on infants and said all the others could wait. I am more torn than when I started. Ugh.

Vicki, how was your appointment?
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kedney- That's great, it went really well for you. It went okay for me. The doctor disagreed with my wishes. He did not make me sign off on anything though. He said that I need to continue to look at the reports and both sides of the info. He agreed to delay the shots till after 2 yrs. and IF we give them to give them separately. So it went okay. He was hurt I think that I questioned him on this. But I did what I thought was right. So I stuck to my guns. Then the nurse was less than pleased with me and was not happy I would not allow the flu shot for any of them. After all that, she was most concerned about the flu shot!!
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Vicki & Kristy- I am so glad both your appts. went better than expected.

It's so odd these nurses get so mad. What do they get out of this you know??

A doctor won't sign anything saying if anything happens to your child from the vaccine he is 100% liable..so I feel it really isn't their decision at all.

I know it is hard girls. I called a few pedi's before mine and they gave me a song & dance just on the phone. I have had nurses at the ER roll their eyes at me and grunt when they ask if he is up to date on his vaccines and I say we don't vaccinate. They sometimes will ask why and I will say we are against it and leave it at that. If they bug us more DH always chimes in they are poision an don't work so why would we give them to our child. That usually shuts them up. LOL It really is SOOOOO nice once you find someone who respects your decisions. Mine even told me he didn't do all the vaccines on his own children. I do not get lectured or told anything at all. There are 6 doctors there and I have seen three. Once they see that on my chart they don't even ask me. Just here is your waiver to sign. I hope you girls find that too if need be

Vicki- Here it is standard to get the lead test at 12 months. I have the b/w slip I just still need to take Mason. Waiting on when DH can go with me because I know it won't be easy to hold him to get blood drawn.
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Kristy and Vicki - I, too, am glad that your appointments were better than you expected.

Here is a post that I received this morning from my essential oils board. I thought I would share it with all of you....

Hello

I added one more link that I think is phenomenal to see. Gary Young and Dr.
Hill have shown this at conventions as well. I think between this film that is
very eye opening and this other footage of the mercury going into the neuron
of the cell is quite impactful for any parent on the fence about vaccinating
their children.

Blessings of abundant health to us all!



Ugly Truth about Vaccinations

This is a film that is VERY informative and worth watching and keeping on
file for helping others in the future

And...

U of C Showcase TV&

If this link does not work to click on it copy and paste it.

This link above is a phenomenal graphic footage of actually seeing Mercury
from a needle going right into a neuron of a cell and destroying it completely
within a very very short time. If you know any parents or parents to be who
are on the fence about whether or not to vaccinate their newborn or young
children this may help them make their choice with awareness. There IS Thimersol in
vaccines ... this IS MERCURY!!! This goes to show you clearly as to why we
have all heard hundreds of stories of parents saying my child was perfectly
normal and the next day after their routine vaccines or the week alter AUTISM
sets in for their rest of their precious lives.
There is also mercury in flu vaccines as well.
Keep this one on file and pass it on widely

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Rac, thank you for posting that. What about the single dose mercury free vaccines available now? Are they safer?
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:32 AM
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Kristy - Everything that I have read about the 'mercury free' vaccines says that there is still a trace amount of mercury in them. From what I understand, the mercury (thimerasol) is used during the incubation/creation process then extracted, but not all amounts of the mercury is removed. I recall the FDA or CDC stating that there are still trace amounts of thimerasol in vaccines, but the level is low so they consider it to be 'mercury or thimerasol free'. I think I posted the article from the CDC at one point, but I don't remember which thread it was in. I'm pretty sure it's in this one, but it might be in the original mmr thread.
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I haven't read all the posts so sorry if this has already been mentioned, but Jenny McCarthy has beenon Larry King (and I"m sure they will show it again) discussing her son's Autism and the link to the vaccine.


Someone asked about separating the MMR vaccine. I grew up in England and had the Rubella vaccine separate when I was a teen. I never had the measles or mumps vaccine and believe I got both illnesses growing up and obviously turned out fine.
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I watched those videos over the weekend that I had posted last week. There was something in the one that really hit me and makes me wonder if it is the cause of my infertility. Not that I have had mass quantities of tetanus shots, but I know that I have had a couple (the last in high school) Here is some of it...

Administration of tetanus toxoid (either as TT or Td) in mass campaigns is generally as part of a high risk approach delivering the vaccine to women of childbearing age in a given locality............. 5 doses of tetanus toxoid for women of child-bearing age as for non-HIV infected persons. Supplementary information on vaccine safety WHO/V&B/00 (added emphasis)

An astonishing journal paper. 1 November, 1993. FASEB Journal, volume 7, pp.1381-1385. Authors—Stephan Dirnhofer et al. Dirnhofer is from the Institute for Biomedical Aging Research of the Austrian Academy of Sciences. A quote from the paper: "Our study provides insights into possible modes of action of the birth control vaccine promoted by the Task Force on Birth Control Vaccines of the WHO (World Health Organization)."A birth control vaccine? What? Yes. A vaccine whose purpose is to achieve non-pregnancy where it ordinarily could occur.Sterilization? This particular vaccine is apparently just one of several anti-fertility vaccines the Task Force is promoting. Yes. There is a Task Force on Birth Control Vaccines at WHO. This journal paper focuses on a hormone called human chorionic gonadotropin B (hCG). There is a heading in the paper (p.1382) called "Ability of antibodies to neutralize the biological activity of hCG." The authors are trying to discover whether a state of no-fertility can be achieved by blocking the normal activity of hCG. They state, "We conclude from our results that both the efficacy and safety of the WHO vaccine are not yet ensured."
Another journal paper. The British Medical Bulletin, volume 49,1993. "Contraceptive Vaccines" is the title of the paper. The authors—RJ Aitken et al. From the MRC Reproductive Biology Unit, University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, UK.
"Three major approaches to contraceptive vaccine development are being pursued at the present time. The most advanced approach, which has already reached the stage of phase 2 clinical trials [human trials testing efficacy], involves the induction of immunity against human chorionic gonadotro-phin (hCG). Vaccines are being engineered ... incorporating tetanus or diptheria toxoid linked to a variety of hCG-based peptides... Clinical trials have revealed that such preparations are capable of stimulating the production of anti-hCG anti­bodies. However, the long-term consequences of such immu nity in terms of safety or efficacy are, as yet, unknown...The authors are talking about creating an immune response against a female hormone....The authors state, "The fundamental principle behind this approach to contraceptive vaccine development is to prevent the maternal recognition of pregnancy by inducing a state of immunity against hGC, the hormone mat signals the presence of the embryo to the maternal endocrine system."...... Rappoport, Jon (Ownership of All Life p66)
"In 1995, a Catholic human rights organization called Human Life International accused the WHO of promoting a Canadian-made tetanus vaccine laced with a pregancy hormone called human choriogonadotropic hormone (HCG). Suspicions were aroused when the tetanus vaccine was prescribed in the unusual dose of five multiple injections over a three month period, and recommended only to women of reproductive age. When an unusual number of women experienced vaginal bleeding and miscarriages after the shots, a hormone additive was uncovered as the cause.
Apparently the WHO has been developing and testing anti-fertility vaccines for over two decades. Women receiving the laced tetanus shot not only developed antibodies to tetanus, but they also developed dangerous antibodies to the pregnancy hormone as well. Without this HCG hormone the growth of the fetus is impaired. Consequently, the laced vaccine served as a covert contraceptive device. Commissioned to analyze the vaccine, the Philippines Medical Association found that 20 percent of the WHO tetanus vaccines were contaminated with the hormone. Not surprisingly, the WHO has denied all accusations as "completely false and without basis," and the major media have never reported on the controversy. For futher details on this issue, consult the Human Life International website (www.hli.org)."--- Dr Alan Cantwell MD
"Non Voluntary Vaccinations of Akha Women. Possibility of link to In-utero deaths among Akha women which are frequent in this region. This vaccination given twice to three times during pregnancy. Akha women in Thailand say that if they object they are told that they will not be given identity papers for their child when born."-- http://www.akha.org/tetanustoxoid.htm
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I got an email about this from my essentail oils board. It just amazes me.

(NewsTarget) This is an action item alert for all those who believe in health freedom. State and County officials in Maryland have announced they will send parents to jail if they don't submit their children to forced vaccinations. State Attorney General Glenn F. Ivey has announced he is willing to criminalize parents if they don't bring them to the courthouse to have them injected, on the spot, with vaccines that contain methyl mercury -- a highly toxic nerve chemical that causes brain damage and is linked to autism. The action is backed by Circuit Judge William D. Missouri, Circuit Judge C. Philip Nichols Jr., and the chairman of the Prince George school board, R. Owen Johnson Jr.

Together, these judges and officials have conspired to turn Maryland into a medical police state, invoking the threat of imprisonment in order to achieve a vaccination goal that has more to do with politics than children's actual health or safety. By threatening to imprison parents who object to the supposed health benefits of vaccinations, these state officials are effectively conspiring to cause thousands of children to be separated from their parents -- a move that would create a humanitarian and public health disaster. This thought has not deterred Attorney General Glenn F. Ivey, who said, "We can do this the easy way or the hard way, but it's got to get done." That's the kind of quote that might be uttered by a corrupt police officer pointing a gun in your face and demanding that you do something you don't want to do. Actually, that's not far off base from what the state of Maryland is now asking parents to do: Submit to the harming of their children through the injection of a toxic chemical, all enforced at gunpoint.

These vaccines contain thimerosal, a chemical preservative made, in part, with toxic methyl mercury. This toxic substance was banned decades ago in many countries, but not in the U.S. where corrupt health officials cater to the financial interests of drug companies rather than protecting the public. Read NewsTarget's full report on Thimerosal here: http://www.newstarget.com/011764.html

NewsTarget is launching a grassroots action campaign to file an avalanche of complaints with the relevant Maryland officials, demanding that they reverse their position on this issue and apologize for threatening to throw parents in jail for refusing to have their children forcibly vaccinated. We believe that Attorney General Ivey -- a Democrat -- should be ashamed of himself for invoking such tyrannical actions against his own people, and that judges William Missouri and C. Philip Nichols Jr. should be rebuked for conspiring to threaten the free people of Maryland with imprisonment.

Join NewsTarget in complaining to Maryland officials, in your own words, about this outrageous application of state power against the people. Here's who you can contact:


Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley

http://www.governor.maryland.gov/staff.asp
100 State Circle, Annapolis, Maryland 21401-1925
Phone: 410.974.3901 • 1.800.811.8336 • MD Relay 1.800.735.2258
Colm O'Comartun, Director of Governor's Office
Fax: (410) 974-3275
Phone: (410) 974-3901; 1-800-811-8336 (toll free)


Maryland Attorney General Glenn F. Ivey

Office of State's Attorney
Courthouse, Room 349M, 14735 Main St., Upper Marlboro, MD 20772
Tel: (301) 952-3500/55; Fax: (301) 952-3775

This is the tyrant who is threatening to arrest and imprison parents who fail to get their children vaccinated.


Board of Education

www.pgcps.org/pgboard.html
http://www.msa.md.gov/msa/mdmanual/36loc/pg/html/pge.html#education

Tel: (301) 952-6115
Phone the Board of Ed. office: 301 952-6308 or fax at 952-6114

Elected by Voters to 4-year terms:
R. Owen Johnson, Jr., Chair (chosen by Board in Dec., 4-year term), Dist. 5
Verjeana M. Jacobs, Esq., Vice-Chair (chosen by Board in Dec., 4-year term), At Large
Rosalind A. Johnson, Dist. 1
Heather Iliff, Dist. 2
Pat J. Fletcher, Dist. 3
Linda T. Thomas, Dist. 4
Donna Hathaway Beck, At Large
Ronald L. Watson, Ph.D., At Large
Amber P. Waller,* At Large


County Executive

Elected by Voters to 4-year term:
Jack B. Johnson (D), County Executive, 2010
County Administration Building, Suite 5032
14741 Governor Oden Bowie Drive, Upper Marlboro, MD 20772 - 3070
(301) 952-4131
e-mail: wjproctor@co.pg.md.us
web: www.co.pg.md.us/Government/ExecutiveBranch/


Prince George County's County Health Department

http://www.co.pg.md.us/Government/AgencyIndex/Health/index.asp

Donald Shell, M.D., M.A.
Health Officer
Headquarters Building
1701 McCormick Drive
Suite 200
Largo, Maryland 20774

Tel: (301) 883-7879
Fax: (301) 883-7896


Public Schools

Prince George's County Public Schools
14201 School Lane
Upper Marlboro, MD 20772
301-952-6000


ACLU already contacted

NewsTarget has also contacted the Maryland ACLU, who told us that they cannot take action on this issue until a parent is actually arrested and charged. But at that point, they may take an interest in this case.


Action Items:

If you feel passionate about this issue and want to take a stand, we urge you to call, fax or email the officials named above.

Be sure to contact the office of Attorney General Glenn F. Ivey as well as the school board office of R. Owen Johnson Jr. These are key players in this latest example of medical tyranny.

You do not have to live in Maryland to make your voice heard on this issue. This impacts us all, because if Maryland officials learn they can get away with this kind of Big Brother Medicine scheme, other states may be inspired to pull out their guns and try the same thing. It is crucial that we remind these officials of what country they live in, and here in the United States, We the People still demand our freedoms and our right to choose what kind of medicine is best for our children.


The dangers of vaccines

What's clear is that there is a substantial and scientifically validated link between vaccinations and neurological disorders in children. Maryland state officials apparently have no concern over this matter and are enforcing mandatory vaccinations as if the injections were entirely harmless. This myopic view of the safety of pharmaceuticals is typical of state officials and conventional medical doctors, both of whom are almost always influenced to a large degree by the financial aims of powerful pharmaceutical companies. (Doctors, for example, aren't even taught about the dangers of mercury in vaccines and are told that ALL drugs are safe for use on children, even if those drugs have never been tested on children!)

Due to the enormous amount of information now available about the dangers of vaccinations, there is no question that concerned parents have a right -- if not the responsibility -- to consciously object to the harming of their children via such vaccines. Rejecting mandatory vaccinations is one of the most responsible health decisions an informed parent can make. It is, in fact, all the mindless parents who submit to such vaccinations who are demonstrating a complete lack of concern for the health of their children. These are, no doubt, the same parents who feed their children processed foods, soda pop and school lunches (which contain numerous harmful chemical additives such as sodium nitrite, sodium benzoate and artificial food colors).

Join NewsTarget in taking action, and we'll help put a stop to this medical tyranny. If there's one thing state Attorneys General hate worse than parents who won't get their kids vaccinated, it's waking up to an avalanche of screaming angry parents from all across the country who are tired of being criminalized for merely protecting their children from the dangers of vaccines.
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another interesting and informative article.

NewsTarget) Using antibiotics in the first year of life may significantly increase a child's risk of contracting asthma by age 7, according to a study conducted by researchers at University of Manitoba and McGill University in Montreal and published in "CHEST," the journal of the American College of Chest Physicians.

The researchers examined a prescription database that included information on 13,116 children and compared incidence of asthma with a variety of risk factors, including antibiotic use, gender, maternal asthma history, living location, neighborhood income, the presence of pets in the home and the number of siblings at the age of seven.

The study concluded that those who had received antibiotics for the treatment of a non-respiratory tract infection in their first year were twice as likely to suffer from asthma at the age of seven than those who had not. The higher the number of treatments, the higher the child's risk of asthma.

Eighty-seven percent of children who had received antibiotics were treated for respiratory tract infections. Because respiratory tract infections early in life may be a sign of developing asthma, however, the researchers excluded these cases from the sample in order to be sure the effect they were observing was related only to the antibiotics.

The researchers also found that maternal history of asthma significantly increased a child's risk of the disease. The presence of the dog in the house during the first year of life, however, led to a reduced risk of contracting asthma. Among children who received multiple treatments with antibiotics, those with the dog in the house suffered half the asthma risk of those without.

"Dogs bring germs into the home, and it is thought that this exposure is required for the infant's immune system to develop normally. Other research has shown that the presence of a dog in early life protects against the development of asthma," said lead researcher Anita Kozyrskyj.
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Here's the link where these articles came from. There is a lot of really good information here.

http://www.newstarget.com/
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One more...

Herbal Alternatives to the Flu Shot (Part 1)


NewsTarget) I received my doctor’s annual reminder in the mail today: “Get Your Flu Shot!” I never have before, so why should I this year? You’d think he’d have given up on me by now. Furthermore, the medical community insists that to be a "good mother", I must give the flu vaccine to my 18-month-old son. Along with all of the other vaccines they think he needs.

But I don’t, and wont, get the flu shot. Nor will my son. There’s no need, since with a few really fine herbal recipes and common sense hygiene, I can make my family much healthier than they would ever be with an ineffective and potentially dangerous flu shot.

So this is the time of year that I get out my trusty herbal allies and start formulating my “winter” medicines. I make a lot, since inevitably a friend or client will insist that I share my wealth. And I’m happy to do so.

Every herbalist worth the name has a version of this fantastic formula. It’s now available for sale, but is quite expensive. I don’t pay high prices, though. I pay somewhere around $10 a quart to make it myself. Fire Cider, Cyclone Cider - call it what you will, I call it magic.

Grab a few handfuls of the following, all fresh: ginger, onion, horseradish, garlic, & lemon. Roughly chop them up and pack into a 1-quart canning jar, leaving a few inches at the top. Add anywhere from 1/2 to 2 teaspoons (or more if you like it really spicy!) of cayenne pepper. Cover with organic raw apple cider vinegar. Cover the top of the jar with a square of waxed paper before placing lid on, then seal. This is to stop the acid in the vinegar corroding the metal lid.

Shake well and leave on your kitchen counter, out of direct sunlight. Every time you walk by that jar, give it another shake. You may also want to talk to it, sing, recite poetry, smudge sacred herbs, dance, tell it a good joke or whatever you like to make your medicine more potent.

For two weeks, shake the jar and do your magic. At the end of two weeks, pour it through a kitchen strainer, wash your canning jar out well, and return the liquid to the jar. You may want to add, at this point, a few tablespoons glycerin (which will give it a pleasant sweetness, a nice foil for the hot, tart taste) or honey. If you add honey, you’ll need to refrigerate it, but glycerin requires no refrigeration. I strongly recommend buying some 2 ounce dropper bottles because you’ll want a bottle a your desk, in your kitchen, by your bedside, and in the car. Use liberally to boost immunity, fight infection, soothe the throat, open the sinuses, stimulate circulation and energy, and generally improve health. Add to soup or salad to spice them up and give a boost-though I usually just drop it directly into my mouth.

Elder-Ginger Syrup is another staple in my winter medicine cabinet. Israeli virologists have found that elderberry extract has been shown to be specifically active against the influenza virus, blocking replication very effectively. Elder has many other health attributes as well, and is exceptionally safe - even for my toddler. All of that, and it’s quite tasty, too.

Simmer 1 cup dried elder berries in 2 cups distilled water for 30 minutes. Strain well. Return to pot and add 4 tablespoons grated ginger. Cover and simmer for 10 minutes. Strain again, return to pot, and simmer over low heat to reduce liquid to 1 cup. Add 1 cup of honey, organic sugar or maple syrup, and 1/4-cup brandy as a preservative. Use 1 tablespoon 4 times a day at the first sign of flu, or take daily as a preventative. Very nice added to hot teas, or just in hot water with some lemon.

Everyone runs to the health food store for echinacea-goldenseal tincture when they have a cold, and for good reason—it’s one of the foundation items for fighting colds and flu and stimulating immune activity to assist in throwing off viral or bacterial infection. But please - $15 for 1 ounce? You can do better than that.

Take 1 ounce each of (all organically grown please!) echinacea root, goldenseal or Oregon grape root (similar benefits, but Oregon grape root has not been drastically over harvested like goldensea