Mel- Oh shoot we X posts. Glad it went well. I can't believe they made you do it in front of the students! You go, girl! Let us know about that callback.

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Claire - if you Oed yesterday its actually better that you BDed the day before so the swimmers are right there waiting! Did you finally get a positive from the EPT OPKs? I was starting to feel bad about recommending them... No "possibly mistimed BD" here... it was either 2 days before O or 3... doubtful the swim team can hold out that long

Mel - I was totally thinking what Claire said... I took AP Bio a millenium ago and I don't remember bioethics being taught... then again I don't remember much from a millenium ago!! I'm glad it went well even though I'm sure it was nerve racking. Let us know when you hear back! Thanks for checking your chart about BDing post HSG... I don't even know if I just imagined but you're right, can't hurt to ask the doc!

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Lindy - If you MUST take something, take the tylenol, but only when necessary. Tylenol and NSAIDS can both do a number on the stomach and cause bleeding.

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So I was just browsing the net for how long swimmers live... and I guess there's a theory that if you BD 3-5 days before O, you're more likely to have a girl. Of course there are other theories that say the opposite but the good thing I take from it is that there is a chance even if my BD was 3 days before O. I found this chart too and I found it interesting that 2 days before O is slightly higher than the day before O What is the Fertility Window & Ability to Conceive | OV Watch Weird! Does this jive up with anything in TCOYF?

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I don't know Irene, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a slightly greater possibility...females in general are more durable biologically than males. This is something I learned back when my goddaughter had cancer, and I learned that just the fact of her being female put her in a better risk category then if she were a boy. Once my attention was called to that, I've noticed it in many health cases, given all the same circumstances, the boys have it touger than the girls, with no reason they can put their finger on. And females statistically have a longer life-span. (thinking out loud here) So I wonder if there could be a slightly more elevated chance that the more durable, longer surviving sperm might be XX carriers? Interesting thought. *shrug* Oh well, no way to know for sure, just like with every other dang thing in the world.

I want to be on a Carribbean island. Laying in the water. With a margarita in hand. Anyone want to come?

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Irene - I don't remember what TCOYF says, but yes, girl sperm live longer. The boy sperm are faster swimmers. So, if you bd 3-4 days before O, chances are the boy swimmers may not live that long, even if they reached the finish line first. I'm not sure how long the actual journey is through the uterus to the tubes, though. There is a lot about the environment in there, too.... I think the girls like a more acidic environment while boys like a more alkaline environment?? I know that people who attempt to do gender selection do a lot of things to increase their chances of boy vs girl. Some work, some don't. I think it's called the Shettle's Method.

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Steph - yup thats the theory in a nutshell. Sigh... I don't care if its a boy or a girl... I just want a tiny being...

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Rebecca - yeah thats the theory I read - the Shettles Method. Do you remember anything about why 2 days before O would be slightly higher than the day before O? I wonder if thats the ultimate time when both boy and girl sperm have a chance?

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*Steph guzzles* Thank you.

So, dammit, I didn't do the OPKs, and my oddness THIS cycle is that I had EWCM all day CD12, and none since. Combine that with the shorter cycles of the last handful of months, and the nothing-nothing-SPIKE OPK I did last cycle...I wonder if O has moved earlier now. No way to know. But if so, then IF there were viable swimmers the other night, then the timing would have been good.

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Okay... so I started cramping so I put on a pad... of course I had to attend a meeting, and all during it I'm thinking that my pad needs changing...AF must have started - cramps are normal - gonna ruin my favorite suit. Finally I get out of the meeting, head to the bathroom... NOTHING! Not even a drop. I am at a loss.

I called the doc, and the receptionist laughed at me when I asked if I could move up my appt. She literally laughed at me. I asked her if I could come in and get a blood preg test, and she told me that I could take one at home if i wanted. Um... okay. This was after I told her that I had a neg. preg test yesterday. I ended up giving her a message for the doc. Hopefully she will call and I can explain what is going on. I think the receptionist ended up writing that I'm 18 days late and I need clomid... the doc is going to think I'm weird. lol. Anyway, I'm waiting anxiously by my phone... I'll let you guys know what is up as soon as I find out.

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Rebecca- I think it was Irene that asked about the Tylenol. I was wondering about my O date. I am not too sure what the heck is going on with me. Any way, I hope all is well with you. I am keeping you in my prayers. Whatever you choose to do I will support you. I was wondering did yall ever consider IVF. I know it is expensive just wondering.

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Lindy - It was Claire who asked. Oops.... I'm not sure about your O date. It is possible to not O right after your positive opk. I think the positive is a guide to let you know that it 'could' happen within the next some 36 hours or something like that. I noticed that you don't have any more tests charted.....maybe you got the positive just as the surge was happening?? Just a guess.

Claire - See my previous post to Lindy.... LOL

Irene - I'm not sure. I'm wondering if it's due to the amount of time that it takes for the sperm to travel. They need to be in the tubes waiting for the egg. That's the only thing I can think of.

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LOL!, Rac I knew what ya meant. Trust me, after living on OTC pain meds for 3 months prior to my lap, I'm VERY sparing with them now.

Steph- Me! Me! Me! I wanna go! Take me with you!

Irene- You are so cute researching spermies! I read somewhere (TCOYF? Hmm, maybe somewhere else) That the girl sperm (boy that's a contradiction, huh?) Are slow and big but hearty. They take a licking and keep on ticking. Now, the goofy little boy sperm just go really really fast and the environment has to be just right for their fragile little egos....er, I mean bodies, yeah, fragile little bodies. So, yes, I think the theory is that-in your case- it would be a girl. Cause we can take more crap. Seriously tho, I think there is SOOOO much that science just doesn't know about conception. I mean, we are told the little swimmers don't survive for very long, but then they can FREEZE them and use them again? Plus, I just can't believe that every accidental PG out there happened b/c they did the nasty in the CORRECT 24 hour period, KWIM?
About the EPT's: I finally got them working-well, for me at least. Don't feel bad for the reccomendation, I'm sure this whole delayed O thing could have played a part.

Lindy- I finally looked at your chart...... hmmm, sorry sweetie, I got no good advice for you. You can certainly get a +opk, but no O. Have you tried any more OPKS? I'm going to keep using them for a while. I just want to make sure that they go back to stark white after O.

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Hi everyone.

Not much to report here other than AF rearing her ugly head early. I didn't expect her for another week. So that makes last cycle (26 days) my shortest cycle yet. I had some spotting (not even enough to show up on a pantyliner) a couple of days ago which I have NEVER had before af. I was so hopeful too. I'd been a little nauseated, sore bb's, little pinches in my uterus...basically everything pointing towards being pg and then on came the cramps last night. Can't help but wonder if it might have been a chemical, but now I'll never really know. So basically I'm out of the running for Spring 2009, and highly unlikely for all of 2009 given that I probably won't see dh until Sept or Oct. I'm considering going to a gyno and seeing if I can have some bw done just to make sure nothings wrong with me. If this was a chemical then that would total #4 mc's.

Brandy

OMG! no DH till Sept or Oct????? Why? That's a long time. Hugs and good luck to you. Nothing wrong with getting a littlbe b/w to rule things out, if only for your own sanity.

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Claire~ DH is in the Navy and is currently in Maine until the end of next month when they start to see if the new ship is seaworthy, and ready to be commissioned in Aug. It'll take from Aug. to either Sept. or Oct. for the ship to get to San Diego. Hopefully by then I'll have moved from CO to CA.

The thing is I thought that maybe the spotting was implantation bleeding so I tried to take a CBE HPT yesterday, but got a book error so who knows. I don't know if I want to start bw with a local gyno and then move to CA and have to start all over again...

Ok, here is a pic of my OPK that i just peed on! It to me is still - but it is the darkest (the same as the last several) that made me think it is + bc last month I didn't get a line at all. I did O last month. Heck maybe I am back to O'ing on CD14. I am sick of BD. but I guess we will keep it up. We did have fun last night thinking that we weren't BD to get pg so I guess I will put myself back into that mind set. Any way DD is crying and whining so I gotta figure out what the deal is. She gets emotional sometimes for no reason. I guess it is bc she is a girl. Oh Lord, I wonder what it will be like when she is a teenager full of drama. I can hear it now, she is just like me. I will check back later on yalls opinions. Ok how the heck do I put a picture in this message? I tried to as an attachment but don't see it.

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