Happy July!

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Kelli - I haven't seen the Freebirthing show but a home birth would probably send me over the edge. I am not up for hanging at home without the medical professionals. I'm sure there are situations that medical intervention caused more trouble than help but I'm not up for the chance of trying it at home and it not going so well either. I'd guess it is a personality difference if you can do it or not. I worry way too much!

And for having other small children watch...no thanks! That has to be traumatic for them?? That would be all I need...another small child flipping out while I'm giving birth!!

Like others said everyone has their own opinion on this...this is mine.

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Re: young children witnessing ~ I have an unusual perspective on that, since I witnessed a live birth for the first time at the age of 5. And a home birth, at that (though a doc was called in). It was an unexpected home-birth, which is why I was there to begin with. It was our upstairs neighbor and her husband, her best friend who lived across the hall, my mother, we lived half a floor down, me, and the best friend's son, who was a toddler. I was tasked with making sure the toddler didn't get underfoot. Now, I wasn't right there next to the doc with my catcher's mitt , but certainly in the room much of the time.

Was it traumatic for me? Not at all. I was fascinated. I don't remember being anxious. I don't remember having questions. Actually, that's not true, I recall asking my mother later what the doc had been looking for when he examined the placenta. The important part being, I understood what was happening. My mother was a La Leche League leader and a lamaze instructor, so babies and pregnancy and all of it was second nature to me, as it was all very natural to her, and she considered it an important part of my education. I must have gotten big eyes at one point when there was some yelling going on, because I remember mother telling me it was okay, that it was normal, and everything was just fine.

I can absolutely imagine it being problematic for a child who is completely unprepared. I'm sure many people would think that I was way too young, AND way too old to have witnessed something like that. But it was all part of the education I had already been receiving, simply by being around the idea of natural birth and La Leche. I'd logged more hours at more meetings by then than most La Leche members , so there was a LOT that simply absorbed. It wasn't that we were 'nature people' or something. I wasn't present for my little brother's birth (I was eight), and I don't think my older sister witnessed a birth when she was a child. But then again, I was the one who was the little mother, not so much my sister. It was a situation that presented itself, and mom decided it was the right time and place.

Anyway, I suppose it's all about what seems 'normal' to you. My mother was comfortable, but still attentive to me, and so it was all okay in my situation. If she hadn't been comfortable, I wouldn't have been. If she hadn't let me become prepared, I wouldn't have been.

So my perspective? As with almost everything...it depends on the child, and the entire situation, as to what is 'right'.

I was there when the same lady's second one was born, same circumstances, except I was two years older and I was watching the toddler who I had seen born two years before.

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I just had to add that both of my older girls will be present for the birth of this baby (whom we have started calling Buc, not sure where it started but it has stuck) Mia will be with my MIL and Molly and Morgan will cut the cord together.

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yep, must be a personal decision I just couldn't do it.

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Happy July everyone! I want to start by saying I'm glad there wasn't any fights about the freebirthing topic I brought up (you just never know how people will react & I didn't want to start a fight, just get some opinions on a topic I was not familiar with). Really, I had never heard of such a thing before. Births that happened at home on accident, or with a midwife or doctor, yes. But not consciously making the choice to stay home & not have any medical assistance, or even anyone on call. I can see women wanting to do this b/c they believe doctors intervene too much. But it would be way too much for me. I would be terrified. But you would have to be much better prepared than some of the women I saw on the show. Also, there seems to be a chance of social workers checking up on you. I wouldn't want the chance that something could happen to me, the baby, or the baby even being taken away.

Stephanie - it seems as though the situation you were in was well under control. I can see some situations that present itself can work. The woman with her husband & child on the show had the child on the bed while Mommy had a leg in the air, half-naked & screaming. You just never know how that will effect a child to see Mommy in pain. I'm just not so sure about that.

I just know I definitely will not be having a home birth. My opinion; I just feel safer in the hospital with my doctors (I love my baby dr!). Plus, there is a chance I will have a high-risk pg, & a good chance I will not be able to have an epidural either. So I think I will be in the hospital for mine, hopefully in the next yr, that would be great!!

Good luck to everyone in July!! I'm now on Clomid Day 2!

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If I could get some opinions, please, I would appreciate.

I have PCOS and am overweight, I did the clomid thing and on the 6th month got BFP, but lost in 8th week...that was 11 months ago. I went on birth control for a few months at docs request and wanted to start trying again, but I haven't really tried much. Now I want to try.

My question is I have gained even more weight since beg of year due to some surgeries and meds I have been on. I am scared to try because I am 235 pounds now. If it were you would you wait a few months and try to lose weight? Or start with clomid again?

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Kim

Kim - Overweight people get pg and have healthy babies all the time. Do what you can to lose weight (if that is what you want) and try at the same time. I say schedule an appt with your doctor and see what they suggest. I am overweight as well TTC #2, 4th round of Clomid, first IUI...I have not been diagnosed with PCOS, but I do take Metformin for Insulin Resistance. I am about 15 - 20 lbs heavier than I was when I got pg with my dd. We conceived her in just 4 cycles. This time it's proving to be more difficult. I wish you luck in what ever you decide. Since you have already had 6 rounds of Clomid will they allow you to do any more?

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Kim - I agree with Cassie. Overweight women get pg every day. If you want to try to lose a few pounds that's great, but I wouldn't let that stop you from ttc.

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I agree. You can try to lose weight while TTC. A "healthy" diet would be good for the baby anyway. I am a way too picky eater & I wish I could find a healthy diet that also involves food that I like so I could lose some lbs. I have gained about 40 lbs in the last 2 years from having guillain barre syndrome. But I won't let that weight gain stand in my way for TTC. Lots of overweight women have perfectly healthy babies and do just fine.

I'm also interested in knowing about the extra rounds of clomid. I thought you were only supposed to do 6, but maybe that is consecutively.

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Thanks for the input. It makes me feel more confident in my decision.

pug_momma: you can take clomid for 6 months and then technically you are supposed to wait a bit before you start again.

Well girls I talked with my RE regarding the lupron shot and still not getting my period. She is going to put me on a birth control pill to force me to get my period. The only problem is if I start it today then when my period should be here is right when we are leaving for vacation. Thats fine but I have to have an ultrasound before we can move forward and the ultrasound has to be when I get my period. Once my period and ultrasound are done then I get to start the injectables which means September I could be pregnant. We leave on vacation August 20th and won't be back until August 28th which we could come back a day or two earlier so I could still make it to the doctor while on vacation. What or when do you think I should start it?

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Waiting for some baby dust to float my way.

You know, somebody has to post in this section, or new people will never join in, and the circle of membership will dwindle big time. There are always 'down-cycles' in every section, but it always picks back up again.

I sure as heck don't belong here, cause I passed my first year of TTC LONG ago, and moved into the IF threads, and have since exited the IF thread since I'm not even TTC, but I thought I'd draw attention to this thread. In four years, I've never seen it go dead like this.

So if you are a TTCer, get gabbin'!

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soon steph, soon
Ive been meaning to ask what is your story? I always read what you write and you seem to know alot on the subject if its hard to talk about I understand...

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Well, this is where I figure I still am. I've been off bc since I was 17 w/ only one m/c & not using Any form of prevention, at any time. I've wanted a baby (in the back of my head) since the m/c in 2005. But really wanted one since about the beginning/middle of 2008, maybe. Hard to pinpoint the exact date. However, I have only been charting since Jan & this is my first month on Clomid. So I figure the beginning of the year, I will consider myself IF for sure if the clomid don't work. But the IF thread is always going strong & there's always valuable info there. Everyone in here either moved to IF, got a BFP (Yah!), or something. It's lonely in here all by yourself, tho. I def wish there would be some new members to talk to in here.

Wow, it's almost the end of July & this is still on the 1st page. There's usually like over 10 pages. Crazy. Where did everyone go?

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I'll try to help keep it going a little. Yeah, it's actually a GOOD thing when the TTC threads get quiet, But it doesn't stay that way long.

Part of the reason most 'old timers' stay out of the TTC thread is because we don't want to SCARE THE CRAP out of anyone. It's hard to remember that 'normal' things in the IF world are totally foreign and scary to 'younger' TTCers and newbies.

So...wow. My story. No, I don't mind. It's long (I use a LOT of words!) and I'm just not sure if I know how to tell it though. At this point, I'm an oddball around here. Um...I guess, it starts five years ago when I got together with my Ex-DH, and had an unexpected pg while on the pill. And an even more unexpected m/c. It screwed me up physically and emotionally for a long time. Doc did the 'scare the patient' thing and convinced me to go back on BCPs again for a few months post m/c, then I stopped them for good. We were TTC again after that. I was REALLY messed up. Still in the darkness eight months after the m/c and found this site. Read for a few months before I started posting. It was so small and new back then...

Took a year after the 1st m/c, got another BFP, and another m/c. Because of the relationships and information from this site, I wasn't waiting for a third m/c before pushing for testing. I started down the road of blood test after blood test, meds, and miserable appointments. Wedding was somewhere in there. More life insanity and problems than I can even go into. Removal of synthetic hormones from my diet, natural progesterone cream to treat the LP defect. Circumstances and my own stupidity, and financial reasons prevented further IF treatment, and then life exploded. The m/cs really destroyed me... It took a long, long time to make even a small amount of peace with it. Still hurts. Still a hole in my heart, and in my life. Still something I got cheated out of. Still something that forever carved out pieces of the mother in me, and changed me. Changed my relationship with the world, with people, with myself, with everything. Major part of what ruined my relationship, eventually. Errrr...that part is hard to explain...my Ex-H went crazy and spent the past two and a half years torturing me. If you even want to TRY to pick up that story, you'll have to go search through my old posts. I can't even BEGIN to tell that story. We split for good in March.

Soooo anyway, that's bits of my story. I've been around. I'm a unique IFer, who is has no hope to TTC any time soon, who never completed the IF journey, having neither ultimate success, nor ultimate failure, nor exiting the journey by choice. Still has hope down the road. And unique in that way -- you can't imagine the number THAT alone does on my mind...to know what I know, to have been where I've been, and to be faced with (and gifted with) the situation somewhere down the road, to basically start over from scratch. To actually TRY to start over from scratch. To have that option. To know that I'll always be scarred and damaged. The chance to not repeat the mistakes of the past. To not let 'TTC through a veil of past-IF' darken that next chance at life and happiness. To allow it all to start over. Scary. Frightening. Hopeful. Confusing.

Um. Something else you'll notice about me...sometimes I get so caught up in my words that I loose my point.

I left Texas and came to Florida a year ago (can't BELIEVE it's been a year in two weeks!), trying very gently to form my new life. Tiny step, by tiny step. Life is very small and very quiet. And that is the way I need it. I have a lot to recover from. I don't know how much that will really happen, but I'm making little bits of progress.

And though I don't belong, I'm STILL hanging around this place. It is the only bit of sanity I had for a long time, and I can't imagine really leaving it for good. So you won't notice me answering questions much, nor throwing out what I know much, as I have to remain somewhat removed from the active TTC stuff, and the baby-raising stuff (which I've done my entire life), and all of it. But I still love my girls. I'm here. Trying to find a little corner for me.

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awwwww, I have always been intrigued by you..... its quite the story well the bits you shared our story is somewhat somewhat being the main word similar I suffered 2 m/c's also I guess thats the only similar point. I did not get any further testing I wanted to but doc said I didnt need it I had a D&C last june and got a bfp in July and it stuck. I know what you mean about them messing you up.... I still have negative feelings at times, I hope you get to rejoin the journey at some point in the future sorry your ex turned out to suck, but yay for a year of new begenings you had better go out and celebrate!!

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wow just realized how all over the place that was.... lol sorry!

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Oh, how funny, I just realized you came on the board RIGHT before I left for Florida (and had no computer at home for eight months, so no CT), and then I got my new laptop four months ago, so here I am.

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I know I love coming in here and reading everyones story when I get really down. When I read everyone messages I remember that I am not alone in this fight to have a child. I am happy that everyone who has gotten a BFP has gotten one as it is hard to deal with not being able to get pregnant. I also like coming on here to share my news whether it is good or bad because through all of this there is only a few people who know about what is going on with me. I am looking forward to the next step as I am hopeful and I know dh is scared to tell me he is scared that things won't happen.

I am praying that PMS will show up before August 1 as that is when I have to start taking BCP again for 1 month to get my body to force itself to have PMS after that Lupron shot which I have mixed feelings about.

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Waiting for some baby dust to float my way.